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ElmerJFudd
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(08/11/09 07:36 AM)
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Re: Windows 7 64bit mLAN WORKS (I HAVE PROOF)
Also, just keep in mind that ideally you would like to have Yamaha support W7 64 drivers officially. And the more of you that are pushing for them, the better luck you'll have.
Add your name to this thread, http://www.01xray.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=7&Board=01X_Windows&Number=441660&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
Personally, I'd like to see the drivers also brought over to Snow Leopard on the Mac platform.
White MacBook '09 (4gb RAM), OSX.5.8, v.1.2 mLAN tools, Logic 9, 01X, S90ES, i88x & i88x
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GriffGroff
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(08/11/09 08:25 AM)
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Re: Windows 7 64bit mLAN WORKS (I HAVE PROOF)
I tried it on the 64 bit RTM version of W7 Ultimate and while I got it to "work", it was FAR from suitable compared to XP32bit. Very occaisional crackles but getting worse as time went on (having already disabled my n/w adapter etc...before that it was quite bad) and after several reboots...the driver wouldn't start at all and needed to be reinstalled. This isn't a solution (certainly not for me anyway), I need something 100% stable, and only XP32bit has ever truly given me that with my 01x+i88x regardless of PC hardware.
It's a proper working and tested W7 64 bit driver for me, or MOTU gear (896mk3 + 8pre) and a control surface, whatever happens first. Up to you Yammy - cos if you don't sort it out I will never return!!! It's so damn annoying as EVERYTHING else works great under Windows7...I really could do with the 64bit addressing.
Good luck to those who do get it to work acceptably for them using these tricks though!
For those that do get it to work 100%...could you please post your mobo model w/ bios revision and the firewire card you are using (not just chipset - I am using a TI chipset and get issues with W7) and anything you had to disable to get it 100%...ta!
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nickm
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(08/11/09 02:35 PM)
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Re: Windows 7 64bit mLAN WORKS (I HAVE PROOF)
My i7 machine runs an Intel i7 920 on a Gigabyte GA-EX58-DS4 Bought at the end of January this year. BIOS: F3 On board IEEE1394 TI chipset. 12GB DDR3 RAM @1600MHz. Asus nVidia 9600GT PCI-e graphics card 512MB. Under Vista 64 it would work reasonably OK on audio playback with the odd crackle and sometimes short lived dropout. Audio in though appeared to work for a few seconds (but was very very distorted) but would stop altogether very quickly - completely useless. Under Windows 7 the same machine is perfect in terms of Audio comms with Cubase 5, 3 or SX3
The i7 is pretty much music only, although I do have Virtual PC and the XP SP3 image installed and available. Cubase 5 64 bit, Wavelab 6.01, Groove Agent 3
I'm only using mLAN audio with my MY16-mLAN card and 01v96v2. MIDI comms with the 01v96 to use it as a control surface in Cubase are achieved separately with USB
I had tried the desk/MY16-mLAN sometime last year using the XP 64 bit driver on one of my Asus P5B based boards with similar results whilst using Vista 64, so I don't think the problem with Vista is necessarily motherboard specific.
Performance is not as good on my Sony Vaio laptop running W7 64 and similarly not as good on my Asus P5-DH board, but then the laptop is significantly less powerful than the i7 although for a laptop it is pretty powerful, and the Asus board is getting a bit long in the tooth now as is the CPU which was bought in July 2006 when Core 2 Duo CPUs had been on public sale for about a week. However neither really glitch the audio in moderate usage.
I've found, using mLAN on the Windows 32 bit platform is definitely some and some, by which I mean it's perfect on some systems and far less so on others that theoretically should perhaps be better performers. I get regular dropouts on one particular PC and it is apparently random. My i7 system is so far one of the most stable for audio with W7 64 and the XP driver
konc3pt.sF: Sorry - That's what I get for staying up too late. I hadn't clocked you were also having issues in XP. Your Gigabyte motherboard is a variant of the one I have, and as such it should have an integrated IEEE1394 interface based on the TI chipset. It's possible that you have a hardware conflict that I am fortunate enough not to have. Check out your graphics card and drivers, hard disc performance and the quality/length of your Firewire connecting cable. Also check that your mLAN device is synchronising properly with your PC - my PC is set up as the Word Clock Master with the 01v96v2/MY16-mLAN being the slave - and any glitches I've ever experienced on any machine with XP or Windows 7 have always shown up as a loss of sync on the 01v96. I have several Firewire cables with some of them clearly being better quality than others, and I don't think this is insignificant -although I haven't focused on proving or disproving this - it's just a possibilty worth looking at maybe.
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matt c
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(08/17/09 07:22 PM)
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Re: Windows 7 64bit mLAN WORKS (I HAVE PROOF)
can somebody please help me get this working on windows 7 32 bit. =[ this is so frustrating...
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nickm
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(08/17/09 11:37 PM)
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Re: Windows 7 64bit mLAN WORKS (I HAVE PROOF)
There was a post from someone on how he'd got mLAN working under Windows 7 32 bit. Here is the link: http://www.mlancentral.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=6&Board=winxp&Number=442466&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
Unfortunately Windows 7 64 bit doesn't (yet??) have firewire support from the host computer (except if the firewire device is a hard drive) in what Microsoft are calling XP Compatibility mode, which is essentially VirtualPC running Windows XP SP3 inside a virtual machine, BUT USB devices are supported in the virtual machine. The XP virtual machine image is free, downloadable and licensed under your copy of Windows 7. Most 32 bit apps run quite happily in the 64 bit environment of Windows 7 anyway, so unless you have a particular need to stay with 32 bit Windows 7, why not move up to 64 bit?
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cfaalm
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(08/21/09 05:38 AM)
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Re: Windows 7 64bit mLAN WORKS (I HAVE PROOF)
Thanks Elmer. I joined that list. Hope it helps.
01v96v2, i88x, AMD X2 3800+ 2GB, MacBook 1.8GHz 2GB, Cubase, Logic
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petterkatt
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(08/24/09 02:51 PM)
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Re: Windows 7 64bit mLAN WORKS (I HAVE PROOF)
I can not get the MIDI-in ports working on my i88X
Have tried to reinstall the drivers, and then suddenly my MIDI-out popped up, but still no MIDI-in...
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petterkatt
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(08/24/09 03:03 PM)
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Re: Windows 7 64bit mLAN WORKS (I HAVE PROOF)
hmm... One bluescreen later and a reinstall of the drivers my MIDI-in is at place... just 5 mins before I ordered a MIDI-USB-interface =)
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faithless
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(09/10/09 05:25 AM)
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Re: Windows 7 64bit mLAN WORKS (I HAVE PROOF)
The plot thickens... I figured i'd post something after speaking to a very helpful fella at Yamaha UK tech support called Dusty.
Basically... 64bit drivers ARE STILL being developed BUT these appear to be Vista only. There's currently no news on whether or not Windows7 drivers will be produced (32bit or 64bit).
It turns out that the development work that would normally be carried out by Yamaha and handled by Yamaha developers has been MOVED out of the UK and over to Steinberg which would explain why we're no longer getting any input from the Yamaha team!
Dusty took down my details and said he'll give me a call back once he's spoken to the guys at Steinberg with regards to their current development path and 64bit support.
Hopefully he gets back to me with an update!
All in all I made it pretty clear that the 01x is great product but if STABLE 64bit support isn't available then i'll be forced to move away from Yamaha and buy a 64bit compatible interface, i also mentioned that i speak for a number of members on mlancentral and 01xray who are forced to use 32bit setups because there is no stable 64bit support available for Vista and/or Windows7.
I also enquired about driver support for Macs rocking Snow Leopard and he said that the current drivers should work. I told him that based on feedback on the forums the drivers simply don't work or are extremely unstable.
We'll see how this pans out i guess... I'll try and keep you guys updated if i hear anything from Yamaha.
Cheers,
Kang
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ElmerJFudd
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(09/10/09 04:03 PM)
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Re: Windows 7 64bit mLAN WORKS (I HAVE PROOF)
Regarding Snow Leopard,
http://www.01xray.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=7&Board=01X_Macintosh&Number=443926&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=all
Zibba and a few others have the current mLAN drivers installed on Snow Leopard. During installation there is an error message regarding the plist installer. However, the drivers do install and appear to function. Only long term use will reveal how stable they are under SL.
SM2 and the 01X editor install and appear to function under SL.
The Yamaha plug-ins (pitch fixer, final master, channel strip, etc.) do not appear to function under SL.
It would not be much of an effort for Yamaha to tweak the current mLAN and 01X ancillary software for Snow Leopard. An official release speaks volumes about Yamaha's supposedly new found attitude about supporting their hardware (and their customers).
Keep in mind that all of this is 32bit, Yamaha doesn't have any release candidate or alpha, beta or otherwise that I am aware of that is 64bit for the Mac platform. Logic is curently still a 32bit application, and all our plugins as well, so the tweak for 32bit SL would certainly suffice for now. We can cross the 64bit bridge when the time comes.
White MacBook '09 (4gb RAM), OSX.5.8, v.1.2 mLAN tools, Logic 9, 01X, S90ES, i88x & i88x
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